This thread is for ideas and comments that are not directly relevant to the weekly essay. I’ll start this one with a link to another essay written by Michael Schellenberger, a well-known American environmentalist, who is running for Governor of California. It is not really about the US at all, but about the way in which alternative energy sources are affecting (upwards) the price of electricity, and is therefore directly relevant to we who live Down Under, because the same elements apply. Somewhere I have seen a Part Two, and when I find it I’ll link it too.

How Solar And Wind Are Causing Electricity Prices To Skyrocket

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  • Neville says:

    If OZ didn’t transfer to the S&W idiocy we would still have very cheap, reliable energy similar to the USA.
    The moment we fiddled via the corruption of the RET we guaranteed very high energy prices now and into the future. Why are we so stupid?
    It’s not that we weren’t warned about the outcome by Bolt and McCrann etc.

  • Bryan Roberts says:

    The following caught my eye, and it deserves sharing.

    ABC KIDS listen provides children ages 0-5 and their families with a ‘safe space’ (my emphasis) to access trusted, educational and entertaining audio programs. How is a radio program a safe space?

    An example would appear to be ‘an Acknowledgement of Country’, or ‘the benefits of being a bilingual child’. How much sillier can the national broadcaster get? Remember, this is supposedly addressed to pre-school children, whereas it appears to be a not-so-subtle means of indoctrinating their parents with the standard progressive ideology.

    This really got up my nose.

  • Chris Warren says:

    Global heat for Jan to April.

    There is a little, region in central USA where temps are cooler, so this will get our cherry-pickers excited.

    The North Pole continues to cook.

    • Neville says:

      So how about providing us with your solution to your so called problem? And please don’t forget to provide us with the data, maths and science to support your answer.
      Like how much difference this would make to temp by 2040, 2100 or even 2500? Come on, if it’s so important you must have a solution to your so called problem?

    • spangled drongo says:

      You sure that’s not just more fakery at the bakery, blith?

      Looks like the world is cooling:

    • Chris Warren says:


      It could be, given current political lack of conviction, there is no solution and GHGs will continue to increase forever.

      It could be that people will only be willing to take necessary steps when it is too late.

      When can only hope that those going through the school system today are properly educated and others in the advanced countries accept the need for a different life-style so that GHG emissions are balanced with sinks plus any new technology to extract and store additional gigatonnes.

      There are scientific reasons for suspecting that the world could be rendered uninhabitable if the atmosphere continues heating.

  • margaret says:

    Eight years ago I read Solar, a novel about a climate scientist. I recommend borrowing it from your local library.

  • Neville says:

    France’s Prez Macron has implored OZ to do more to fight his CAGW and cites the poor island nations plight and their battle for survival.
    Just a pity our clueless pollies, media and journos didn’t have the brains to ask this fool a few questions and ask for his solutions.
    Since the signing of Kyoto the OECD countries have achieved little trying to reduce emissions by choosing to use more stupid S&W energy.
    Today they generate just 2.1% of total energy from Geo + S&W and the non OECD generate just 1.2%. And yet these loons still think we can achieve something if we throw endless trillions $ at this lunacy for another quarter of a century.

  • spangled drongo says:

    Satellites are more truthful with their direct observations than with their man made, groupthink algorithms.

    Satellite Data: 75% Of The World’s Beaches Are Stable Or Growing:

    Abstract — Coastal zones constitute one of the most heavily populated and developed land zones in the world. Despite the utility and economic benefits that coasts provide, there is no reliable global-scale assessment of historical shoreline change trends. Here, via the use of freely available optical satellite images captured since 1984, in conjunction with sophisticated image interrogation and analysis methods, we present a global-scale assessment of the occurrence of sandy beaches and rates of shoreline change therein. Applying pixel-based supervised classification, we found that 31% of the world’s ice-free shoreline are sandy. The application of an automated shoreline detection method to the sandy shorelines thus identified resulted in a global dataset of shoreline change rates for the 33 year period 1984–2016. Analysis of the satellite derived shoreline data indicates that 24% of the world’s sandy beaches are eroding at rates exceeding 0.5?m/yr, while 28% are accreting and 48% are stable. The majority of the sandy shorelines in marine protected areas are eroding, raising cause for serious concern.

  • Don says:

    For those interested in sea levels and whether or not there is acceleration on sea levels, the following link is important. It includes an argument by Gavin Schmidt against Willis Eschenbach and has a lot of useful Comments, too. Well worth a read.

  • JimboR says:

    Here’s hoping Barnaby starts charging $150K for his doorstop interviews as well. Then let the market decide if they’re worth it.

  • margaret says:

    “There are those lucky few for whom these rules to an orderly, productive life are inculcated from youth. And there are the rest, left to scavenge meaning for themselves, who will have to rely on Jordan Peterson.“

    • spangled drongo says:

      So, marg, you really think that today’s world of entitlement is comparable with the Great Depression of the ’30s?

      Where the dole was a cup of soup if you were lucky.

      You and bloody Nora simply don’t know you are alive.

      You both can’t cope with a realist like Peterson.

      I wonder why?

  • spangled drongo says:

    This really needs to be stressed and reinforced in our current mad, mad world:

    “We are witnessing the dilution and deliberate deconstruction of our peerless culture. This isn’t just a matter of immigration and numbers, though these are much too high. Rather, it is question of a judicial and political class re-shaping our world as they wish it to be”

  • margaret says:

    Another Jordan Peterson article.

    “One senses among his readers a version of his former self: a restless young buck from a small town in Alberta, Canada, looking to escape and achieve greatness in the wider world. “It was easier for people to be good at something when more of us lived in small, rural communities”, he reflects. Strictly speaking, this seems false, or at least vulnerable to counter-examples. It was just easier to seem good relative to other people when one knew less about their exploits. “Someone could be homecoming queen. Someone else could be spelling-bee champ, math whiz or basketball star”, Peterson reminisces. But since we have become digitally connected across the globe, “our hierarchies of accomplishment are now dizzyingly vertical”.”

    • spangled drongo says:

      What is it about you girls and JP, marg?

      That you have to wait till he is out of the room before you can make a point?

  • spangled drongo says:

    Some more comfort for dear ol’ blith and all his enuresistic mates:

    Just 0.18c above the average for the last 40 years.

    How many trillion d’ya reckon we should we squander on that prollem?

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