Climate change and the Fabian Society

I joined the Fabian Society so long ago that I’ve forgotten when. Some time in the 1960s, I would think. For those who don’t know about it, the Fabian Society is an organisation dedicated to achieving progress through gradual and piecemeal reforms rather than through revolution. It was founded in the late 19th century, and predates the Labour Party in Britain. It had as members and supporters many of the most prominent thinkers of their day, and a lot of its ideas have found their way into law, and the way we live.

My political heritage came through Protestant working class grandparents and school-teacher parents: education, hard work, sympathy for the underdog, save, own  your home, don’t borrow except for a house, and so on. At university I gained the view that history was the working out of the idea of human progress. I grew up in the heartland of the old Country Party, so to all the foregoing I gained in addition sympathy for  farmers, graziers and rural workers, and a feeling that those of us who lived in the country rather than the city were also underdogs — a thought emphasised whenever we went to visit relatives in Sydney. I still hope that Country beats City in Rugby League. Since 1958, my first Federal election, I have voted Labor more often than for its main opponents.

The Fabians take their name from a celebrated Roman General, Quintus Fabius Maximus, who got his nickname Cunctator (delayer) through defeating Hannibal by not engaging with the Carthaginian general directly, but through harrying his support lines. Hannibal had more troops, so a pitched battle was not in Rome’s interest. Fabius was not popular in the early stages of the second Punic War but became celebrated when the Romans realised that his strategy actually worked. He became one of the heroes of the Roman Republic, and was extolled in histories in the period of the Roman Empire as well.

The Fabians liked his cautious strategy in political terms, and based their appeal on a great deal of real research into the living conditions of workers, and what would be needed to overcome this or that real problem in English society. Their work had some effect on Conservatives and Liberals too, who saw, from a different perspective, that if revolution were to be avoided, the workers would have to see that they had a real stake in the confutation of the present structure of society. I wrote about this some time ago.

The Fabians in Australia seemed to me for a long time to be  sort of think-tank for the ALP, but from the incremental rather than the socialist wing. But I now see that there has been a subtle change in the way they present themselves. If you go to the AFS website you get this:

We aim to promote greater equality of power, wealth and opportunity. We promote debate, encourage research, and publish commentary, into political ideas and public policy reform. We host regular policy forums, conferences, dinners, and networking events with high profile guest speakers.

The Australian Fabians are committed to:

A fairer and more sustainable Australia.
Promoting progressive values in the community.
Developing solutions to the biggest policy challenges of today.

Attuned as I doubtless was to the English and research-based origins of the Fabians fifty years ago, and never having gone to a meeting (though I knew quite a few members) I discovered that this was not quite what I had in mind. Somehow the incremental, cautious, research-based character has gone. What you see here is indistinguishable from any other pro-Labor support group. There’s nothing wrong with these aims, but there’s nothing especially Fabian about them, either. The sense of fact-based, incremental change is gone.

I mention all this because I have for some time been needling the local secretary about the wholly orthodox ways in which the AFS has been referring to global warming and ‘climate change’. Last month the AFS produced a newsletter that gave pride of place to the Pope’s encyclical and other essays  supporting its message. So I wrote to him as follows:

Why does the Fabian Society assume that ‘climate change’ is real, caused by human activity and dangerous to humanity and other life forms? There is much better evidence the other way.

Why do you only provide orthodox reading in this area? I have been writing about this issue for ten years now, and have some claim to have experience in assessing science requests for more money to do research. My take on the Pope’s encyclical is different ( I don’t claim that it is the last word, but shouldn’t Fabians be looking at both sides of this question?

I received a courteous reply, whose central points were these:

The Australian Fabians are dedicated to broadening the debate around making a fairer and more equal Australia – as a result we consider topics such as trade, economic policy, indidgenous affairs, good public administration, and yes, climate change and urban planning…

I understand you have a particular skepticism towards what I consider to be a general scientific consensus on climate change. While the Fabians generally do promote debate, the moral, economic and politicial imperatives of realising a low-pollution future mean that our debate on the topic would focus on particular methods of bringing this about – for example, direct subsidies, carbon pricing, transition schemes, etc. It would not attempt to question the underlying science. Indeed, I can’t think of a policy area more crucial to ensuring a fairer Australia in the longer-term than addressing the impacts of carbon pollution…

I am happy to note the concerns you’ve raised at the next meeting of our Executive, but if this is a particular ongoing concern of yours, the Fabians may not be the organisation you would like us to be.

He’s right at the end of his last sentence. Things have changed, and I haven’t caught up. Why do I care? Well, let’s look at his remark that I can’t think of a policy area more crucial to ensuring a fairer Australia in the longer-term than addressing the impacts of carbon pollution… Can I suggest, as nicely as I can, that he really needs to look at the supposed connection between fairness, or equity, and increased greenhouse gases (I’ll ignore the scientific illiteracy of ‘carbon pollution’). There isn’t any, as far as I can determine. If the Fabians are concerned about those who are poorer than others, then they ought to be apprehensive about any policies that increase the cost of energy, because those increases fall most heavily on those for whom the marginal utility of a dollar is greatest. And yes, this is an ‘ongoing concern’ of mine, and it should be for the Fabians, as well.

True Fabians, I think, would try to escape from the fog of ideology — that’s what made them powerful in the beginning. The way you do that is to keep asking the right questions, and digging to get the right answers. The whole area of global warming and ‘climate change’ is beset with mindless thought-clichés, like ‘carbon pollution’, ‘greatest moral challenge’, ‘scientific consensus’, ‘two-degree limit’, and the rest of them. These rhetorical devices get in the way of thinking, and they mean nothing when you examine them hard.

If the Fabians are to be true to their origins, then they need to push the fog away, and ask, once again, how they best help to overcome real problems that real Australians have, right now. Thought-clichés aren’t the way to do it. And yes, I think that it’s time I ended my association with the Fabians.



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  • Alan Gould says:

    Sad to see the Fabians going down the path of the orthodoxy which might also be called the path of fanaticism. Like you, Don, I favour the ameliorative over the murderous; if you have a big problem, approach it by solving the bits that are soluble and you have a different and smaller big problem. And so on, the condition being that you bring to each amelioration good intelligence.
    It might have been good for your Fabian to have stated what he thought the ‘Science’ on this issue is. In trench-fighting on this issue I favour asking the quiet question to warmists “And what is it clinches the issue for you?”

    • David says:

      This. AGW was first hypothesized, 100 years ago. The correlation between CO2 and temp still rocking along. 🙂

    • Travis Kelly says:

      The horrors of the 20th century were framed with good intension, great peice by the way. The history of the minimum wage does a great job of framing fabian intensions.

    • Barry Crawford says:

      The Fabians of the late 1800s in England were already laying the foundations of using the climate as a means of institutional social change and system a system of control through political persuasion; primarily via conning the masses. Remember, during the Victorian era in England, most of the factories were coal fired; which filled the skies with soot. It was both unsightly and prevalent during that time. The Fabians saw this general dissatisfaction from the population as an avenue to capitalize on a political opportunity to engage the body politic to institute controls and gain support. The ethos and fabric of this original tenet has echoed through our Western culture since that time. Any climate change discussion from the left is always rooted in the desire to affect the minds of the masses to further their Communist/Marxist agenda. It’s quite insidious and counterproductive, actually. Socialism, the roots of which can be found in the Fabian Society, one degree removed from Marx himself, was born of the citizens of England who could not find a path around the remaining Royal system of control at the time, and simply did not have the wisdom or courage to embrace individual liberty and revolution as did the American Colonies. So, this band of low IQ minstrels carrying themselves as intellects, un-creatively and errantly aligned themselves with the most destructive political philosophy in history. Although, Communism was young and new at the time so they may not have foreseen the consequences of what they began. Fast forward through WW1, WW2, and countless totalitarian regimes where the loss of life reached more that 100 million souls and oppression reins supreme; most sentient beings understand the devastation Communism and Socialism has wrought on Earth and mankind. Seriously, China is a Communist nation and they are literally polluting the world at a faster rate than all Western nations combined in history. It has never been about climate. It has always been about establishing systems of control over the populations at large. Beware.

  • PeterE says:

    I agree. The old idea of helping the downtrodden and seeking ways to improve our society (to which I subscribe now as I did then) has been superseded by a Gadarene rush to climb aboard the latest ideological fad. It is a matter of despair that so many otherwise intelligent people do this. These individuals wrap themselves in a comforting cloak of moral superiority and become nothing but intellectual snobs. Like all snobbery, this manifestation is founded on falsehood.

  • dlb says:

    I’m wondering whether the average intelligent person might begin to cave under this onslaught form the orthodox and their supporters. They may think sceptics such as Don could be right but when you have much of the scientific establishment, the Church, the ABC, the Fabians and probably two thirds of politicians onboard, well it may be easier to let them have their way for better or worse.

    I also wonder whether George Pell got a similar polite letter from the Vatican 🙂

  • Len Walker says:

    Sad isn’t it – just like the professions. Ever so politely put – “if you don’t agree with our position, the perhaps our organisation isn’t for you”. And so the debate is quashed and the “club” closes in on itself.

  • aert driessen says:

    An excellent piece Don, but I’m not engaging in discussion other than to say that I just do not understand why otherwise intelligent people, not just Fabians but more importantly politicians, keep mindlessly repeating cliches like ‘scientific consensus’ and ‘carbon pollution’. Are they not aware of the thousands of scientists who see other evidence for climate change? And why do we keep talking about climate change when they/we mean warming? Doesn’t that tell you something, especially considering that it hasn’t warmed for nearly 20 years? Have alarmists, particularly politicians with duty of care responsibilities, not read about the counter evidence? Or don’t they understand it and, if so, have they asked scientists that do understand it to explain it to them? If so, why do they not express disagreement instead of saying nothing and simply ignoring us? How is it possible to debate such issues when the principal proponents refuse to debate them in a public forum? And how do you influence the debate when the ‘trusted’ public broadcaster tells only one side of the story and provides no platform for debate? I find it unbelievable and inexplicable.

    • Maureen Hanisch says:

      Perhaps you will find your answers if you ‘follow the money’, Aert. I haven’t found any other logical explanation.

      • dlb says:

        Not money.
        The politicians are following the people,
        The people are following the alarmists,
        The alarmists are following emotion.

        • aert driessen says:

          This is beginning to sound like a vortex headed for the ‘gurgler’ and I find that encouraging. So I shall ‘hang in there’, as they say.

  • Maureen Hanisch says:

    Don, I think what’s needed is for you to get in there and stir up the pot.

  • David says:


    To continue your historical analogy, the Fabians are from Rome and you are from Cathage. Of course they are not going to let you in. 🙂

  • Alan Gould says:

    I would not follow that Rome/Carthage analogy too far. Rome, you will recall, had an agenda for Carthage

  • Peter says:

    Interesting progression of a man realising the reality of an organisation whom he has supported for 50 us years. Appears that he has awoken to the actual purpose, agenda, of a Faith that has in its Churches window in England of that of a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing that represents the intent of a Group that was formed to take over and occupy Rome, by Deception. Don spoke of his Protestant upbringing, whose Bible warns prophetically of Sheep in Wolfes Clothing…. but not only that…. but also that Christians should occupy… UNTILL JESUS CHRIST RETURNS. Our Constitution also states that to be a Parliamentarian, some of whom mentioned, and others I have met in person, should be Honourable men.. I ask.. HOW ARE THOSE, IN PARLIAMENT, ABLE TO STAND IN PARLIAMENT.. WHEN THEIR AIM IS TO HAVE OUR COUNTRY CONTROLLED BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.. WHOSE GOAL, AGAIN.. IS TO TAKE OVER.. FROM… WITHIN. Their have more Fabians in our Government than mentioned. TWO FACTS.. TO be a Member of Caucus you MUST agree to destroy the Farmers.. AND… That the ELITISTS plan to take over, YOUR WORLD… IS BY.. THE GLOBAL WARMING TREATY.. At the moment we have False Teachers.. HYPOCRITES EVERYWHERE.. attempting to take over our Country and destroy OUR GOD GIVEN SOVEREIGNTY.. BY DECEPTION… TO PUT IT SIMPLY.. IF YOU WANT UNGODLY GOVERNMENT….. CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR THE UNGODLY… LISTEN TO THE FALSE PROPHETS WHO ARE LYING TO YOU.. FROM THEIR PULPITS…… AND HAVE THE UNGODLY RULE OVER YOU, LIKE HITLERS SOCIALISTS ATTEMPTED…. THEN DO NOT COMPLAIN WHEN THEY TAKE YOUR EVERYTHING.. FROM YOU.. BUT.. IF YOU WANT GODLY PEOPLE TO SERVE AND HONOUR YOU…. WHO WANT GOD’S PLANS AND PURPOSES FOR YOUR FUTURE TO SUCCEED.. SEEK HIM.. TO SHOW YOU.. WHOM TO VOTE FOR… TAKE CARE… DAYS OF DARKNESS.. OR DAYS… OF LIGHT… ARE RAPIDLY ADVANCING..!!

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